The phrase "losing the dressing room" now holds a regular place in modern football's lexicon, the game's ominous code for a manager sliding into trouble.
Thomas Frank's sacking at Tottenham Hotspur and Sean Dyche's dismissal after only 114 days at Nottingham Forest were both accompanied by talk of internal discontent and revolt as players supposedly lost faith in their methods and approach.
So what can lead to someone "losing the dressing room" - and can a manager ever find it again once it is lost?
What does 'losing the dressing room' mean?
If leaks appear and rebellion rises in the ranks, there is usually only one outcome - the manager's departure.